piertumlocomotor:

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piertumlocomotor:

gremlins2thenewbatch:

piertumlocomotor:

I have yet to meet a single person who honestly thinks communism or anarchism (not comparing them, I know they’re different ideas) that can give me a logical and reasonable arguement as to why it would work. Because they won’t. Communism looks good on paper, but it always falls apart. And as for anarchism…it’s pretty obvious why that can’t even gain decent footing. I know capitalism isn’t a perfect system, but it’s sure as shit what we’ve got, and you’re going to have to deal with that until something better can be implemented.

u just ignoring the many dozens of communes and revolutionary experiments that have been going on for decades now? ever heard of the zapatistas? the currently developing struggle in rojava? i can point u to several entire towns in spain that have implemented post-capitalist methods of living for quite some time now. if u wanna be defeatist have fun doing that

Small scale works pretty well sometimes, I’ll admit that. But I’m talking about people who think making America a communist country would be a step forward, or the people who can even begin to imagine that anarchism is a good idea.

It would be a good idea and a step forward because right now there are six empty houses for every homeless person, and the only reason why this is is because these people don’t have the capital, which is a social construct, required to live in these homes. There are also people starving while supermarkets and restaurants throw out food that is perfectly fine.

I’ve acknowledged that. I’m not trying to say that capitalism is perfect. I know, it’s faaaaar from it. And that shit you’ve described is bad, and it needs to change. But implanting communism would just be exchanging one set of problems for another. I’d also like to point out that that’s quite an Americanized view of things, and changes could actually be made to stop or at the very least change what you described. But that can’t happen with communism, because then it wouldn’t be communism anymore. Why is it fair for the man who works his ass off to provide for his family to get the exact same as the bum down the street who’s homeless because he blew all his money on methamphetamines?

Because the guy who blew all his money on methamphetamines is sick.  He doesn’t deserve to die for having problems that make him prone to addiction.  He doesn’t deserve to starve to death, or freeze to death.  Everyone deserves the means to have a decent life.  Even if they aren’t able to work.  Every human life if valuable and every human deserves dignity.  Now, under socialism that guy who works his ass off to take care of his family won’t have to work as hard because we’ll have full employment which means that instead of leaving people unemployed and desperate for a job, people will share jobs, so we’ll be able to produce as much, and very likely more stuff with less work for each individual laborer.  Also that guy’s family will also be given the means of life so he won’t need to work so hard to support his family.

But that’s not the point, the real point is why should a man who works three jobs to support his family get paid less than a guy who doesn’t work at all whose great great great great grandfather had a printing company, and bought a bunch of stocks.  How is that fair?

Capitalism forces people to do more labor than they have to to create the illusion of scarcity, and to keep the labor reserve army in existence to depress wages.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_army_of_labour

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