anarchists-for-big-government:
anarchists-for-big-government:
Cause like you get paid for fucking, childcare, and domestic work. It’s just a non stigmatized form of sex work. So like these dudes wives are really sex workers in a sense too, so like if we can arrange solidarity between sex workers against dudes that’d be really cool
I mean yeah traditional housewife? You’re basically a full time full service worker with one client, but society doesn’t think of you as a whore so you try to distance yourself from sex workers. Being a sex worker isn’t a bad thing, it’s just a thing.
You can’t be serious. That is not sex work at all, that is so fucking insulting and can you not do this?? You can be in solidarity with sex workers without claiming to be one because you’re a housewife, and “wh*re” is a slur against sex workers so unless you’re a full service sw you shouldn’t be saying it. But god this is incredible. Housewives are sex workers now. Civilians amaze me. 😒
I’m a professional dominatrix and pso, not a civilian and I’ve heard various things re: wh*re, like some full service workers say refusing terms like wh*rephobia is lateral wh*rephobia because we’re distancing ourselves from full services workers.
I’m not and have never been a housewife. I support a househusband actually.
I have to disagree, peacockangel. Wives aren’t necessarily expected to be at the sexual beck-and-call of their husbands. If they are, I’d consider that to be more an issue of rape or domestic violence. A housewife is primarily just an unpaid laborer, who does the cooking and cleaning and childcare. Sex is just kindof part of a romantic relationship, which is what the husband-wife pairing is supposed to be. If the husband expects sex when his wife doesn’t want to, that’s rape, I wouldn’t consider it part of a housewive’s duties or anything to submit like that when she doesn’t want to.
The implication isn’t “at the sexual beck and call” sugar babies receive allowances from sugar daddies, and sex is expected but when is usually at least to some extent up to the SB, from what I understand.
True, but still, isn’t the essence of sex work doing sexual things with someone not because one is intrinsically motivated to do them, but because one is being paid, and in which case wouldn’t do them if they weren’t being paid? Yes one might have an arrangement like a sugar baby where you have a measure of control over the particulars of the when, where, and how of the sex, but the bottom line is that one wouldn’t be having sex with the client if there was no payment. I feel like unless you’re in an abusive relationship, the sex between a husband and wife is always a result of intrinsic motivation by the wife (and husband), not a tit-for-tat where the wife expects to be financially supported on the condition that sex be provided to husband.
In some cases yes in some cases it’s more “I would like to preform this service for free but I can’t and still afford to eat” like with my trans woman clients I would talk to them for free for hours but I need the money and I don’t think you understand how many women have sex they don’t particularly want to keep their partners happy. Like it’s consent but it’s transactional consent. Most relationships are transactional to some degree. Like love and care can be part of those transactions.
Women historically traded sex and domestic labor for security, and many women still do. Like financially I take care of my husband financially, in return he looks after me and makes sure I eat and sleep and what not, he does this because he loves me, but he wouldn’t be able to do it if I didn’ financially support him (I’m a lot of work because I’m fundamentally incapable of taking care of myself)
Like yes, the love matters, the love matters a lot, but there’s still the fact that I’m paying for him to be at home instead of working elsewhere. Having a stay at home spouse is in some respects a purchase of labor power, though in my case it could be argued that the cost of maintaining someone to look after me is part of the cost of keeping me in working condition so the capitalist who purchases my labor power is also purchasing his by proxy (which is often the case in history, housework was much more time consuming and so keeping a factory worker in cleanish clothes and things involved having a wife to launder and cook and deal with all that crap)
But the thing is, sex work isn’t always doing something you have no intrinsic motivation to do, comforting people, listening to problems, and telling dirty stories? I love doing all of these things, hell I love giving a good whipping, but I can’t provide them for free because I have to pay the bills, and also dudes who try not to pay sex workers are demonstrating an extreme lack of respect for our work, like I like doing this, and I like how the “professional” keeps clients out of my personal life, I don’t want these interactions to be personal, I like popping into someones life like a fairygodmother, fulfilling a wish, and not having them expect me to be getting off on it, or think it involves any intimacy on my end. Basically, I like being on the receiving end of intimacy from other people and not displaying anything intimate about myself in response. I like the boundaries of the interaction in my work, I find male submissives sexually disgusting but I do have fun whipping them, and humiliating them.
People let me see into their dark corners in ways I would never get to see if I was a muggle. I love those dark corners, I love seeing these most vulnerable parts of people and not being vulnerable in return, but instead offering kindness, patience, understanding… and an outside perspective. My favorite interactions with people are often professional or otherwise structured, without that distance I feel very uncomfortable in many cases.