See, here’s the thing, yes patriarchy is bad for men.

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It stresses them out, makes them feel inadequate and sad, and that’s bad, but patriarchy does all that same stuff to women… and we’re much more likely to be horribly sex murdered.

That’s it.  That is why I will never buy “men have it as bad as women”

What patriarchy?

This is a society that caters to and cares about women. If you can’t see that you must be have feminist OPPRESSION blinders on. What’s an equal right that men have that women lack in the western world?

Women are more likely to be “sex murdered”, but men are more likely to be murdered in general, just not in that specific way.

Okay, but who murders men?  Other men.  It’s nearly always other men.  If anyone is oppressing men, it’s other men.

Caters to women?  Yeah, nah buddy, do you know who gets to see titillating images of sexy ladies in every movie while women have to make do with scraps?  Do you know about the wage gap?  How about the fact that women are raped, sexually harassed and talked over constantly?

I don’t feel oppressed at all tbh.

I know men kill other men, what’s your point?

What the fuck are you talking about titillating images of women in every movie? That is not in every movie. Most movies that are released now are shit anyway. Why would it even matter? Does the female body threaten you? Not to mention there are definitely women who like watching sexy ladies. The wage gap is incredibly negligible and is overwhelmingly due to women’s person choices. So, nice try! But, no.

Also, now there are is a larger amount of female graduates taking In a higher pay than there male counterparts. But, in feminists eyes that’s perfectly fair, equal and just. Even though, it literally isn’t.

Men are raped too, sexually harassed and I’m certain men have been talked over.

Do you truly believe society hates women?

Why do women receive a far less severe sentence for the same exact crime?

Why does breast cancer research receive a far greater amount of donations than prostate cancer?

+ Quite a few other examples I could mention.

So, thanks buddy!!

1. Because that’s not a gender oppressing another gender, if women did most of the killing of women, or committed an equal number of intergender murders as men, that’d be an issue of people being shitty not gender based violence,

2 No I’m not threatened by the female body, I’m an ex-stripper and current prodomme, and I’m pretty damned comfortable around naked women, or at least the number of women I’ve slept with should indicate that.  Also it should be pretty clear that I was advocating more scantily clad men, not fewer scantily clad women

3. They’re still getting paid less than their male counterparts even with more education, however the inequality of education is an issue I’m interested in, though it’s also worth noting that post graduate programs are still mostly male.  Also the wage gap isn’t due to women’s choices, it’s due to feminized fields dropping in pay.  The pay for Doctors in Russia is shit because most Doctors there are women, I could cite more examples

4. Almost entirely by other men, and that’s still horrible, but the rates are much lower.

5. Because white men are scared of black men’s dicks (seriously this is about racism)

6. Cis men can get breast cancer.  Cis women cannot get prostate cancer.  Also it’s easier to talk about boobs on TV than it is to talk about something up someone’s ass.

7. I’m busy getting ready for the Anarchist Book Fair, and I don’t have the time to deal with 19 year olds who’ve never actually experienced the world

8. Though do I truly believe society hates women? I believe that society oppresses women, especially disabled women, trans women, non-hetero women, and WOC.  Whether this is based in hatred is up for debate, all I know is there’s never been a woman who murdered a bunch of people cause she was mad she wasn’t getting laid.

It wasn’t clear that you were advocating for that. I kinda thought you were a sex negative feminist. I was wrong obviously. I don’t really disagree with that, but it is a pretty minor issue you would have to admit.

They aren’t getting paid less, I’m not going to believe you on your word. I’ve read tons of studies about it to indicate it just is not what feminists say it is. I would be interested in what studies you can produce though, probably flawed studies with a feminist bias.

I don’t know if the rates are much lower. I’ve seen studies that showed that the rates were very close to women’s rates.

I just don’t understand how it makes sense for the patriarchal overlords to ignore the cancer that effects men. If they had men’s interest at the forefront they’d find a way to push it as hard as they could.

How does society oppress women?

They are equally treated according to the law. They have equal pay and equal opportunity.

Does it not oppress disabled men, trans men, non-hetero men or Black men?

I guess that doesn’t matter because women are superior. I mean they’ve never killed people for not getting laid, right?

So, you’re an anarchist too? Haha.

You’re such an ageist shitlord.

How do you know how much of the world I’ve experienced or not? You haven’t lived my life.

It oppresses moc, disabled, non-neuro typical men, gnc men, trans men and many other sorts of men, but not because they are men, women aren’t superior, they simply aren’t raised to feel entitled to access to other people’s bodies. I’m busy right now flogging anarchist materials. Like one of the reasons I’m a feminist is because I love a lot of men the patriarchy hates, men who are gnc, men who are gay, men who don’t fit patriarchal ideals of what a man should be, patriarchy isn’t about improving all men’s lives, it’s about keeping a certain subset of men in power, oppressing all women and causing a large percentage of men of living in fear of losing their precarious position as “real man” studies when I’m home and not on my phone

. http://genderbias.net/docs/resources/guideline/Does%20bad%20pay%20cause%20occupations%20to%20feminize,%20Does%20feminization%20reduce%20pay,%20and%20How%20can%20we%20tell%20with%20longitudinal.pdf this is kinda good though it’s also important to note that the racial pay gap is bigger than the gender one

Why would society oppress women because they are women? For what reason?

Why is Hillary Clinton a very likely person to become president if the patriarchy is oppressing all women?

Personally, and I can only speak for myself. I’ve never felt entitled to someone else’s body, I don’t really remember being raised to feel entitled to that.

Do I really look like the general ideal of a real man is to you?
I don’t think so.

I just don’t believe the patriarchy exists, it seems similar to the illuminati to me. Some of the men in power do have sexist beliefs, for sure. I just don’t think the world is how you say it is though.

What does gnc mean? :/ Gender Non-conforming?

Do you believe every country is patriarchal? Like, Sweden or Norway?

& I will read that study in a bit.

I don’t know about a racial pay gap, I’d have to look into it. I don’t dismiss it outright though.

Also, even though I disagree with you about some stuff. It doesn’t mean I dislike you. I can respect anyone no matter their personal beliefs. I hope you don’t dislike me. Or think I’m a sexist or something like that.

Why would society bring trees indoors and cover them with random glass crap?  Why would society put tiny running shoes on a baby that’s definitely not even walking?  Why would society decide that laundry should smell like freesia?  Why would society decide that pumpkin spice bacon was a thing it wanted to do?  Why anything?

Well, Barack Obama became president, and… if you haven’t noticed what with all the cops murdering innocent black people… racism is kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinda still a thing, so irrelevant?

Wait, aren’t you a lady?

That’s called the just world fallacy, and I’m not claiming it’s on purpose, it’s entirely accidental, it’s emergent and weird, it just happened that way, but just because it didn’t occur on purpose doesn’t make it good.  Earthquakes don’t kill people on purpose and yet we’d still like to stop having them.

GNC means gender non-conforming

I believe Sweden and Norway are still patriarchal but better about it, but there are societies that aren’t (mostly ones that weren’t crushed by European colonialism too much)

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