Cause like sub dudes frequently literally fetishize women’s anger at having their boundaries violated and a bunch of other gross shit.
Submissive dudes are not like some magical feminist fantasy, most of them are horrible and have terrible politics.
Which is not to say dominant dudes are not also generally a cesspool.
Well, as far as the “better vs. worse” concept, I think we can at least claim that Dominant dudes are in a position to cause more actual harm under the guise of “bdsm” than submissive ones.
I’m certainly open to that not being the case, but the idea seems prima facie clear.
I get what you mean but lemme just tell you that a lot of subs I’ve in countered have caused me to have many insecurities about my dominance. Acting like they want to submit just to whine about how I don’t send nude photos, calling me a shit domme for reasons such as the one stated prior and for not just giving them what they want. Many also expect me to be a bitch for no reason and then try to manipulate me into being more of a bitch. I know male dominants are more likely to physically hurt ladies if they’re abusing the terms of bdsm but sub guys have been really shitty in my experience too.
Not too mention the assumption that because I’m a domme I will take them on. Talk about entitlement.Wow. Those are pretty incredible examples. I can see what you mean. I hope what I wrote wasn’t coming across as privileging physical harm over any other kind of harm. I was thinking more in terms of actions that constitute misogyny. But yeah, this is possibly even more insidious.
I didn’t think we were disagreeing or anything I just wanted to list some less than obvious examples of ways they can and have been gross.
I see a lot of generally BDSM neg feminists saying male subs are the bees knees, and never imagining how often male submissives cross boundaries. I was raped by a dude who considered himself submissive so… yah