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i really want to try microbrewing pepsi after the formula is released
I’m gonna grow sunflowers and keep chickens.
I’m going to visit a lot of cemeteries and start a collective that produces color cosmetics and perfume
and scientifically valid skin care products, and do more work on researching and writing about the history of cosmetics.
I want to write books with diverse casts of characters, none of that publisher focus on “those kind of stories don’t sell”. I also want to do freelance publicity for good causes.
I’d rather still be in a lab, working as a microbiologist. I’d like to travel as well.
You can do all of these things without the fall of capitalism happening. You’ll still be just as poor.
That’s the point of there being no capitalism. You don’t have any way to mass produce what you’ve created without government help and you really don’t get paid.
So you might as well do all of that stuff right now.
“You don’t have any way to mass produce what you’ve created without government help”
wow, what a dumb post.
It seems as though you took what I said, cut out a single sentence to make it seem like I said something totally different, and then completely ignored my point. Easy mistake, I’m sure it was simply a misunderstanding of the very flawed English language. Let me be more clear.
You see, I didn’t mean to imply that big government is the answer to the above problems, any more than I meant to imply that government is CURRENTLY necessary to distribute or produce anything of worth.
What I intended to say was that money aids in independent distribution and production. Without capitalism, all that’s left to gather and motivate the masses is government. This would be a bad thing, which is why capitalism, while not perfect, is still necessary. Allow me to explain.
There are only two types of motivation– reward and punishment.
Wealth is a type of reward. The only way that it can ever be used as a punishment is if there is some sort of lack of it. Actually it is used that way, and often, but even when wealth is taken away for breaking some rule (traffic violations, murder, what have you) it still is being moved on to someone else (the cop who fined you, thus effectively doing his job of keeping the peace).
Wealth is also a type of power. The positive kind. If we were to remove wealth from the equation (China, North Korea, Uganda) two things happen. First,
the people have no power (Organized crime, specifically the way they GOVERN the poor in the absence of police intervention), secondly,
there is now no way to motivate people except through punishment (Communist Berlin). Now, thanks to your decision to remove capitalism, your population is mainly being governed through kidnappings and killings. In the absence of reward, they are only being motivated through punishment, and without any access to power except to join the few with it (criminal gangs), they cannot protect themselves.
This is not enough however! Remember, how I said that people need motivation to do things? People aren’t just going to do something for no reason. If I told you to buy a plane ticket to Italy RIGHT THIS MINUTE would you do it? No! There’s nothing in Italy for you today, and even there were, you aren’t ready. You never planned for it. You have no MOTIVATION, to buy a plane ticket to Italy today. We already established that without a type of wealth, some sort of currency, there is no method to ensure that people are motivated to do their jobs except through negative reinforcement.
But hey, let’s pretend (like so many) that this is a world in which, once wealth were removed, all of the above would NOT happen. Oh yes! This is a world in which no one needs outside enforcement at all, including negative. No one is punished by a greater force, because there IS no greater force. Once currency went away, so did the government! You are a sunflower grower that keeps chickens, and you need someone to work on your farm. You probably pay them, but are completely dependent on the morality of these sunflower seed pickers for their motivation to behave. Unfortunately you are a terrible judge of character, so two of these three employees steal your chickens when you aren’t looking, gradually enough that you don’t notice. They are committing a victimless crime and so had more motivation to steal the chickens than to NOT steal the chickens. Without money, they have claimed the chickens as their reward…for successfully stealing from you. Without government, there is no punishment in wait for them, even if you were to find out about their crime, it’s still two against one. Still, at least they had a couple of consciences, telling them right from wrong. The consciences in these two motivate them internally. They have more motivation to abstain from killing you, if they can, than to kill you. Unfortunately, your third employee did not have a very good set of morals or internal motivation. He doesn’t have any outside motivation either. All of his motivation comes from desire for what you have, which was easily obtained when he slashed your throat in your sleep. He took all your stuff and was therefore rewarded.
The government isn’t just the president or the parliament or whatever the masses have chosen to represent them. The government is anything that governs.
You can’t be a microbiologist unless you have the education. Public education doesn’t exist without a board to run and organize it. That’s bureaucracy. That’s government.
You can’t write and distribute books without someone printing, distributing, and selling them for you. Even then, you need a group of people to protect you and make sure that no one steals your work, or replaces your name on the cover with your own. That copyright stuff? That’s laws. That’s government.
Now here’s the awesome news– the internet exists! You can distribute your book online without worrying about the middleman telling you “no”. You can take classes online to learn microbiology without expensive university. You can do these things RIGHT NOW if you put in the time and effort.
But even the internet runs on money. Remove wealth and motivation, and then you need a middleman again. Without power among the masses, the only body able to give you anything is whoever has the bigger stick (punishment) and that’s government.
You can’t destroy patriarchy without destroying capitalism, and uh we’re talking about a stateless society… and I’m pretty sure the responses to this post indicate people are kiiiinda motivated to do stuff and the thing is, these people would do this stuff if they weren’t worried about starving, or working physically and mentally exhausting jobs (that aren’t actually necessary) also like wealth isn’t a carrot, capitalism uses starvation as a stick, you fucknugget.
Thoughts From The Peacock Angel 