Like men are able to get away with never expressing of requesting help with their feelings because women are trained from a very young age to observe men, watch for signs of emotional need and environmental stressors and deal with them without being asked. It’s why women worry constantly about emasculating the men in their lives but men never worry about “efeminating” the women in their lives.
Men are “stoic” only because they don’t have to communicate in order to get their emotional needs met.
it sounds like you are very, very specifically not talking about beta males.
Beta males? Would you say more about that?
Well, obviously it’s just a generalization, but, just generally geeky unpopular, unattractive guys, guys who don’t know how to make friends and strait guys who don’t know how to get a date. They generally don’t get their emotional needs met because they typically cant talk about their emotions to anyone, because when they do, they get rejected or shut down, by men and women alike. By mid teens, beta dudes (except maybe the nice guy types? idk bout them, some of them are feminists, some are mra) rarely talk about their sensitive side to anyone (besides the one girlfriend they may have managed to get in their life). The idea that OP could be accurately describing them is unlikely. Op very likely only knows confident men because they are the only ones who approach her. Their description of these things is a total mismatch of what my experiences have been. The men in my life are either hippie-like and completely open, or they’re betas who don’t open up to anyone, or they’re the kind of people who bottle everything up and only express inner emotions through anger and jokes, or are somewhere between the three. But I don’t know many particularly confident, successful men, but the ones I’ve met could probably fit OP’s description, maybe.
A: There is literally no such thing as a beta male. There aren’t even actually beta wolves, the “alpha/beta/etc” hierarchy only appears in wolf packs in unnatural conditions in captivity. It’s a stupid buzzword that means nothing
B: I approached the men I’ve been with, the ones who’ve approached me aren’t worth bothering with.
C: The women in these guys lives, not just romantic partners, still do a fuck ton of emotional labor. Women are scared geeky unpopular guys are going to fucking murder them if we reject them in a way that doesn’t stroke their ego. I’ve done a fuck ton of emotional labor for these types of guys in my life because I was scared of them. I’ve spent a lot of time in nerd communities with fucking bitter shitty little nerds, and guess what? Still had to meet their fucking emotional needs, which they whined about in subtle ways other men wouldn’t notice but I would constantly.
A) When you want to be right, lie or deny? WTF? Alpha male wolves and alpha female wolves are generally the only ones that mate and they control their position through dominance – and ya, in nature. This is so fucking well documented, denying it illustrates something you probably wouldn’t want to admit about yourself.
Here, take it up with National Geographic. I’m sure they don’t know what they’re talking about either. http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/the-savage-line/articles/wolf-watch-facts/
And while we’re at it, National Geographic on humans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd2NTQPl7D8
En-fucking-joy.
B) Awesome. Good for you. Way to generalize anyone that’s approached you just because they’ve approached you. Maybe we could all make the same generalization about you, since you do all the walking and talking in your interactions? I’d hate to, but you lead us here yourself.
C) Sounds like women need a little shot of that stoicism that is so envied and reviled in men. But that would make stoicism a good thing???
Maybe instead of getting down on men for inherently not caring as much, maybe women could lighten-the-fuck-up a bit and realize women perhaps inherently care more, if not too much? That’s not such a bad thing, unless, apparently, you expect it from yourself and so you’re pretending to be nice to everyone to their faces while secretly hating them. You’ve just detailed the emotional-labor minefield men are forced to navigate with women on a daily basis. Navigate is a strong word, it’s more like, since we’re all emotionally retarded, we plow a path strait through that shit and get blown sky high all the time – and y’all don’t even know it or give a shit. Wait, women unaware of the effects they might have on others through their actions and words!? BlasFemy!
Women using their innate emotional sensitivities to be insensitive. Go figure. Happens a lot with the bitter-shitty-little bitch crowd.
C2) Better not say anything around Sandy, she’ll think less of you just for saying you’re depressed. She’ll ignore the reasons you stated, pretend to console you, but then tell her friends you’re unfuckable because she thought someone else wouldn’t fuck you, then tell boss you’re less effective at your job because she thinks you’re a closet axe murderer one more rejection away from snapping. She didn’t think much of you before, but now she just thinks you’re an emotional cripple that needs her feigned ego-help everyday, what a burden for her to have to help you without you even knowing it. Better stay home and think about killing yourself today because no one is real with you and no one really cares about you because you’re not emotionally intelligent enough to understand people’s (women’s) double-speak or navigate being socially acceptable to people that don’t want to fuck you.
By the way. Life’s short. Just like everyone that wants to fuck you.
C) Some more) And you’ve just described the very phenomenon and exact population that is usually considered “beta,” go fucking figure. I know there’s a brain in there, it’s just not working. All those “bitter, shitty, little nerds” you wanted nothing to do with because of the extra emotional care you decided was your obligation to take. But betas don’t exist!? Oh-ho-ho-ho!
Thanks for being so sensitive and kind to those bitter, shitty, little nerds. You’ve done them a huge favor stroking their egos with rejection and made the world a better place and avoided being a mass murder victim, saving the lives of countless others. Pat yourself on the back for pretending to care about people through the tunnel vision of stereotypes and unhealthy views on men.
You’re a real piece of work, carved strait from that fabric of shit everyone be talkin ‘bout. Did you have to work hard and read lots of books and meet lots of people to get to this level, or is being this terrible of a person come natural to you?
A: http://io9.gizmodo.com/why-everything-you-know-about-wolf-packs-is-wrong-502754629
B: I know what I like. I went after what I wanted and got it. God forbid, right?
C: I didn’t make the world a better place, I avoided getting murdered. God forbid I look out for number one. We do not care more, actually you guys care more, you just force us to do the work of dealing with your bullshit because you won’t handle it yourself.
You’re the emotional ones.
Thoughts From The Peacock Angel 