Like men are able to get away with never expressing of requesting help with their feelings because women are trained from a very young age to observe men, watch for signs of emotional need and environmental stressors and deal with them without being asked. It’s why women worry constantly about emasculating the men in their lives but men never worry about “efeminating” the women in their lives.
Men are “stoic” only because they don’t have to communicate in order to get their emotional needs met.
it sounds like you are very, very specifically not talking about beta males.
Beta males? Would you say more about that?
Well, obviously it’s just a generalization, but, just generally geeky unpopular, unattractive guys, guys who don’t know how to make friends and strait guys who don’t know how to get a date. They generally don’t get their emotional needs met because they typically cant talk about their emotions to anyone, because when they do, they get rejected or shut down, by men and women alike. By mid teens, beta dudes (except maybe the nice guy types? idk bout them, some of them are feminists, some are mra) rarely talk about their sensitive side to anyone (besides the one girlfriend they may have managed to get in their life). The idea that OP could be accurately describing them is unlikely. Op very likely only knows confident men because they are the only ones who approach her. Their description of these things is a total mismatch of what my experiences have been. The men in my life are either hippie-like and completely open, or they’re betas who don’t open up to anyone, or they’re the kind of people who bottle everything up and only express inner emotions through anger and jokes, or are somewhere between the three. But I don’t know many particularly confident, successful men, but the ones I’ve met could probably fit OP’s description, maybe.
A: There is literally no such thing as a beta male. There aren’t even actually beta wolves, the “alpha/beta/etc” hierarchy only appears in wolf packs in unnatural conditions in captivity. It’s a stupid buzzword that means nothing
B: I approached the men I’ve been with, the ones who’ve approached me aren’t worth bothering with.
C: The women in these guys lives, not just romantic partners, still do a fuck ton of emotional labor. Women are scared geeky unpopular guys are going to fucking murder them if we reject them in a way that doesn’t stroke their ego. I’ve done a fuck ton of emotional labor for these types of guys in my life because I was scared of them. I’ve spent a lot of time in nerd communities with fucking bitter shitty little nerds, and guess what? Still had to meet their fucking emotional needs, which they whined about in subtle ways other men wouldn’t notice but I would constantly.