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mfw hippies are better than socialists and anarchists at building intentional mostly-socialist communities

As someone who grew up with an Anarchist mom with connections to both hippie and radical communist groups I can confirm this.

Yea, it’s almost like moving away from the fantasizing and LARP’ing of the radical left almost allows you to have the headspace required to go out there and… Do shit. Like yea, revolutionary catalonia was cool, so was the Ukraine Free Territory, the Paris Commune, but like what’s cooler than that is *going and doing that yourself*

To our and their credit, it’s harder to do that type of shit today but leftists sit around talking about how depressed they are and how meaningless everything is, and like, fucking go out there and make a community with ur pals. It sounds like some hokey bullshit, but when you use your body and work towards some goal that isn’t fucking alienated by having to live under capitalism, it’s extremely rewarding and beautiful. If we had a million, or even half a million bucks (or could easily raise it) we could have a commune off the ground in a few months, which sounds like a lot of money but it’s really not in the grand scheme of things

Don’t forget the Quaker intentional communities as well.

I’d love to live in a commune, but like you said it’s extremely difficult in these days. Especially in urban areas unless you want to live in some gross crust punk squat.

Yea there’s honestly dozens of groups that do this stuff below the radar, like I was reading about ecovillages in my state, you have the Quakers, obviously like you mentioned, there’s Amish in PA who live somewhat of a socialistic lifestyle (but with weird patriarchal religious stuff, ew), there’s like rehabilitation farms for people with severe mental illnesses, there’s tons of worker co-ops even in America, etc.

leftists are their own worst enemies

“no larping revolutionaries lets larp hippies” seriously tho, like the hippies and the quakers were in a material (and ‘spiritual”) need and position to do their stuff (they are quakers and hippies because they do their stuff not) they also do it because it helps them, i’m sure their is plenty of ex-hippies that were in the ideology and not anti-social or anything but for whom the communes didn’t help and was more like an
hassle

like you can’t complain about larping and then say ”leftist” should do like the hippies, the same problem gonna come from it

the point is to be doing something, rather than sitting on twitter and tumblr and arguing with tankies about the kornstadt rebellion for the 8,051st time, you know? And making a commune would help people, I don’t know why you think it wouldn’t.

the point is not that it can’t help, the point is that for a lot of people it would just not be that helpfull and that you can’t ask people to organise something that would not actualy satisfie some interest

i don’t say don’t do comune, coop or other; i’m well aware of the necessity to organise in a form or an other (and i’m pretty sure at least most of the peops arguing on twitter know that)

it’s the wejustneedtodoism of the argument that bother me

You’ve seen my other posts, so you probably should realize that it’s not “wejustneedtodoism” behind my argument, like yea, this OP and the posts after it might sound like it, but it’s part of a broader strategy which I’ve posted before and you’ve not really disagreed at extensive length. 

I want to build a commune because I don’t see how else to better focus first-world revolutionary energy besides more of the same (demos, protests, and activism that makes small gains however is subject to dramatic roll-backs every 4 years) and that honestly doesn’t appeal to me. I don’t think a revolution is possible in America unless we had a sufficient footing to stand on, communes and mutual aid societies that gave us a stable platform to launch massive strikes and work refusals, mutual aid societies that can provide medical care, etc., are something that would prove invaluable. 

I also think as capitalist crises continue to unfold and we see more and more unemployment, without a strong mutual aid network, people are literally going to starve to death and there’s nothing we will be able to do about it unless we have strong networks of communes and mutual aid networks.

I don’t want to withdraw from society, if anything, I want to make a commune right outside of a decently sized college town/city or even a big city with access to all sorts of infrastructure and highways and whatever else you could need.

I think ya’ll are too caught up in thinking about the failed communes of the 60′s and 70′s and thinking that this would be like that, when I don’t think that would be the case at all, as long as it were properly done. Like I said, I don’t want to withdraw from society, I want to build a platform with which we can realistically attack capital and capitalism more strategically.

Ehhhhhh my parents had friends who grew up in hippie communes who were seriously traumatized by the whole experience and like… when the bathroom door fell off it was “temporarily” replaced with a bead curtain until someone could get around to fixing it (spoiler alert: no one ever got around to fixing it). Hippie communes in my experience are more like the nightmare of socialism than the dream