Tag: liberalism

Also I Feel Like The Liberal Idea Of Delinquency

Gets applied to leftist forms of social justice way too often and people who do bad stuff are labelled as “just bad” and they need to be killed or imprisoned because they’re “monsters” and IDK I just find the idea that so many people, anyone who’s ever fucked up or done something problematic is irredeemable to be… really scary and bad.

People are redeemable.  I don’t believe in prisons.  If you believe in the possibility of social change without simply massacring anyone who holds a position of privilege, you have to believe in the possibility of redemption, of learning better.

I also think it’s really fucked how the people who admit their wrongdoings are the ones we jump down the throats of.

There are no ugly women, only lazy ones – Helena Rubinstein
I feel like this quote epitomizes liberalism’s attitude towards everything “Born with a disadvantage? Work ten times as hard and fix it, otherwise you are bad. Also while you’re doing this, we’re narrowing what’s acceptable so you have to run to stay in place, YAY”

I Think A Lot Of Where SJ Shit Gets Toxic

Is when liberals get ahold of and try to use leftist analyses, and try and treat individuals like systems because they get the two confused, or sometimes when leftists show residual liberal thought and continue to treat the individual as the system, looking for the villain in the wrong place.

I think a lot of people don’t have the very Marxist context a lot of social justice theory stems from, and Marxist theory is very macro, a very broad and big picture view, and treating some little petite bourgeois store owner like the incarnation of capitalism is a huge mistake, they’re a product of the system, not the system itself… I mean I think the liberal conceit of treating individuals as the system is what lead to a lot of human rights abuses in “socialist” nations.

Dismantling systems is harder and more complicated than tearing people apart, but still.

The way to dismantle systems is spreading memes not sending anon hate.

People don’t tend to listen when they feel attacked, and like I feel like treating individuals as systems tends not to actually work, because it doesn’t actually address the system they exist within, and although the system changing requires people to change their behavior, the way a system is discussed should generally be different from how an individual is discussed.

Do you know what I mean?

Okay So I’m Seeing Some Good Critiques Of Consensus And Democracy

Makes it easy for a big group to oppress a smaller one, which while probably kinda better than a small group oppressing a bigger one, cause less people are oppressed is still inherently shitty, cause like democracy can be used to oppress POC in a white majority country and stuff, but then we have this history of that idea being used to use the theoretical people to oppress the literal people

So like?  What do?

Google is only turning up monarchists

I’m not saying there is no good alternative, I just have no frickin’ idea.

Like I mean constitutions n’ shit are supposed to stop that but we know that hasn’t worked so well… so?

But on the other hand some ideas about how to avoid the problems of these things haven’t worked well, so?