Like I Don’t Think You Can Really Tell If A Woman Is Being Objectified By Looking At The Behavior Of The Woman

And I don’t think you can stop women being objectified by changing women’s behavior, like there isn’t a way to behave that will make men treat you as a real person on an individual level.

Like you can tell if men are objectifying a woman, and then like the issue isn’t making her stop doing whatever so they stop objectifying her, the issue is making them stop objectifying her.

Which is why I get so mad when sex worker exterminatory reactionary feminists see men making nasty comments about like Sasha Grey or whatever and are like “This is why choice rhetoric is bullshit, men will objectify you anyway” but like here’s the thing, in a patriarchal society men will objectify women whether or not there’s hardcore gangbang porn, the existence of Sasha Grey isn’t the reason men are making shitty gross misogynist comments about women.  If you shift societal modesty standards towards something more conservative, that won’t eliminate patriarchy.  If the most erotic piece of media you can get is the Eileen Fisher catalogue they’ll just make horrible comments about the models in that.

You can’t change men’s behavior by changing women’s to comply with whatever shitty standards they set in order for you to be treated like a person, they’ll just shift the goal posts, all you can do is fight them head on.

When People Are Like “ZOMG The Commodification Of Sex!”

I really want to know what they think sex should be like?

Like no one is like “ZOMG the commodification of food” or “ZOMG the commodification of massages” so why sex?

Like isn’t it implicit in that message that sex is somehow “special” 

Sex’s “specialness” is what men use to demand feminine “purity”

Sex’s “specialness” is what society uses to justify the rape of women who sleep around.

The idea that sex should be special is utterly rooted in patriarchy and is founded on the denigration of women.

And BTW if a guy who is already misogynist has his negative views of women reinforced by porn

Then it’s because literally anything will reinforce his being a fuckin’ shitty dude, because he chooses to be a fucking shitty dude.  Do not absolve the dude.  This is his fault.

We need to get rid of those dudes.

Seriously.

http://greatist.com/happiness/does-porn-promote-negative-view-of-women

http://www.everydayhealth.com/columns/dr-laura-berman-on-love-and-sex/does-watching-porn-make-men-sexist/

Can we actually just blame the misogynists for their being misogynists?  Quit saying “Men have seen porn, they can’t help themselves” 

They can so help themselves.  Do not blame images of people fucking.  Blame the dudes.