Sorry if you’ve answered this previously, but I looked around your blog and was still confused. How do you think sex work would/should work under socialism?

Under socialism?

I’m not sure, but my guess is something like:

Workers councils work to create safe/nice working conditions allowing individual workers to work under the model that works best for them (streetwalking would probably go away because even if it were 100% safe, it’s not very comfortable having to be out in the weather and it seems like an inefficient model for both worker and client, particularly in terms of carbon emissions).  I imagine most of us would choose to work in worker one cooperative brothels/dungeons/clubs/etc (though we’d set up a system for guaranteeing the safety of those working alone), for outcall work we’d have check ins with the workers council to make sure we’re safe.  Workers councils would do things to try and eliminate competition between workers so that clients can’t pit us against each other to depress pay (ideally we’d have managed to eliminate racism, transmisogyny, and other factors that depress pay for workers from oppressed groups, otherwise we’d probably have to institute some kind of distribution system so that sex workers who are oppressed on various axises can be treated fairly until we manage to dismantle those systems)

Since everyone has a guaranteed basic income that covers basic necessities plus a good bit extra, no one will do it out of economic necessity.  Male sex workers will probably see an increase in demand as more women feel empowered to pay for sexual services.  I imagine if we had worker shortages in any industry we’d probably advertise the need and people who had an interest could come do it.

Once we have full communism money will probably be obsolete and we’ll probably just do it as our way of contributing to society (if we want).  I like listening to people, and helping them explore their sexualities, even though it’s not sexual for me, seeing people opening up and being happy gives me the warm fuzzies, just like giving people makeup advice gives me the warm fuzzies, if I didn’t have to do it for money I’d probably take fewer clients and mostly the ones who are working themselves through things. I think under full communism we’ll probably also get paid in tokens of gratitude (as well as with the continuing functioning of a society where all our material needs are provided for with anyone being forced to work, I think that people don’t need to be forced to work, we’re naturally industrious and most of us get bored and depressed if we don’t help our fellow humans/contribute things to society) so thank you notes, and things like that, there might be some sort of website set up for people to send thank yous to people who’ve provided things for them, so one could for example send a thank you note to the people who work in the factory that built your sofa, because hey, some people like building things and people like contributing, and so if we make it easy for people to plug in and do that they will.

Fetish Workers/ProDommes

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Inspired by toomuchperfume “I’m Not Fancy” post, I think it could be informative to talk about rates. Transparency wrt income/wages is important for labor organizing in general, and can do a lot to illuminate “-isms” in the industry as well.

As an indie Domme, I consider my…

Sorry on behalf of other ProDommes. I def don’t think of my work as “empowering” for what it’s worth (like many SWs I even shudder now when I hear the word!) 

I just got a client reference from a Domme who charges $500/hr, but I think that has to be rare. She’s also a WOC. But I would love to know more about fetish rates, as most providers don’t have them listed on their websites. I imagine there is some sort of celling, and if you surpass it you just won’t get very many bookings, if any. 

The other thing is that many SWs change our rates throughout our careers. I cringe when I think of what I accepted when I first started, because I was so naive and had no idea what the market was like, so anything above minimum wage seemed extravagant to me! 

Curious to hear thoughts from leighalanna and thepeacockangel on this! 

I charge 275 an hour for in person sessions these days, with a 25 dollar rush booking fee if they want same day booking (sometimes I raise this if I’m tired or sulky or dislike the client).  My phone rate is 1.99 per minute, or 3.50 per min for cam, I charge subs 10 extra dollars for cam shows if they want me to wear something in particular (more if it’s something that’s hard to put on/not something I want to wear).

I also don’t think my work is empowering, it’s work.  It’s a decent job, but I’m also a big ol red, and I don’t believe any labor is empowering under capitalism.

I used to charge 250 an hour, but I haven’t noticed a change in bookings since I changed it.

I’m thin, white, standard issue pretty with large (fake) breasts, 25 (real age, think I can pass for a bit younger), upper class accent and manners and not too many tattoos.  There’s not much competition in my city, but I do not offer services like strap on, ass worship or golden showers so that reigns in what I can charge somewhat, though I also have some unusual skills and equipment.

For indie doms I understand 250 per hr is about industry standard.

Fetish Workers/ProDommes

They label us whore, they label us victim, they label us “friend”, they label us help, they label us invisible, they label us object, they label us wife, but they never label us worker.

Me on the similarity between domestic and sexual labor

I am COMPLETELY fascinated by your work. It’s genuinely amazing and I was wondering if you had any advice for someone interested in taking on the dom lifestyle? I’m sure you’ve answered this question a thousand and one times but, if you could answer it one more time, I’d be so appreciative.

My first piece of advice is that for me it is a job and not a lifestyle.  Lifestyle I’m a submissive.  It’s work, much like any other work.  A lot of people seem to think it’s all glamour and ease and doing whatever nasty things you want to rich men who pay you lots and lots of money while you wear fabulous clothes.

The reality is answering a lot of emails, doing a lot of emotional labor, doing a lot of self promotion work, and indulging the kinks of people with enough money to pay you.  It’s a job and it’s not an easy job.  It’s a job that requires skill with the equipment, and business sense, and organizational and people skills.  The pay check can be very nice, though it can also be very feast or famine and if you aren’t on the ball, and hard working you won’t make money.

My major advice is have someone you check in with, know your legal codes, use a lot of lysol and clorox wipes on your gear, don’t let clients bully you, don’t go in thinking that this is about you as a person or expecting some kind of personal enlightenment or development of personal awareness, treat it as a job and you’ll be a lot happier doing it if you choose to do it.

That said there are a lot of young women out there these days who think they want to do this because it seems “edgy” or “cool” or “fun” without realizing that it is in fact a job.

Join IU 690 of the IWW while you’re at it.  We’re awesome

Oh, and don’t undercut my goddamned rates, I gave you advice so that’d be in pretty bad form.

If you’re actually hoping to be a lifestyler and not a pro, my main piece of advice is: Remember lifestyle dommes are in huge demand so you can be as choosy as you please.