tiredcommunist:

piertumlocomotor:

bobsavage:

social-cap1tal:

piertumlocomotor:

gremlins2thenewbatch:

piertumlocomotor:

I have yet to meet a single person who honestly thinks communism or anarchism (not comparing them, I know they’re different ideas) that can give me a logical and reasonable arguement as to why it would work. Because they won’t. Communism looks good on paper, but it always falls apart. And as for anarchism…it’s pretty obvious why that can’t even gain decent footing. I know capitalism isn’t a perfect system, but it’s sure as shit what we’ve got, and you’re going to have to deal with that until something better can be implemented.

u just ignoring the many dozens of communes and revolutionary experiments that have been going on for decades now? ever heard of the zapatistas? the currently developing struggle in rojava? i can point u to several entire towns in spain that have implemented post-capitalist methods of living for quite some time now. if u wanna be defeatist have fun doing that

Small scale works pretty well sometimes, I’ll admit that. But I’m talking about people who think making America a communist country would be a step forward, or the people who can even begin to imagine that anarchism is a good idea.

It would be a good idea and a step forward because right now there are six empty houses for every homeless person, and the only reason why this is is because these people don’t have the capital, which is a social construct, required to live in these homes. There are also people starving while supermarkets and restaurants throw out food that is perfectly fine.

‘Communism doesn’t work’ is so boring to repeatedly here when like, capitalism does? Pretty much every third world country is capitalist. Every single impoverished person in the first world is living under capitalism. How is capitalism working for these people exactly?

It’s very easy to point out the bad. America, Canada, Australia, all of the UK, France, etc, are all capitalist countries. And you know, you’ve got a point, I’ll give you that. But that’s not capitalism, that’s the person running the country. If you actually listened to what I said, I know capitalism isn’t perfect. It’s a flawed system, but at least it can actually work.

Australia is forcing the closure of indigenous communities as  we speak, because they are considered a ‘drain on resources’. This is a country founded on the theft and land and murder of indigenous populations – and the imperative driving those actions both historically and today are  economic, are founded in capitalism, are not just ‘a bad guy prime minister’ that is the most ridiculous liberalism I’ve ever heard.

What do you mean why would it work?  Also communism has only been tried on a large scale using a shitty Stalinist model.  Why do internal combustion engines work?  Why do forks work?  Why anything?  Do you mean how, because that’s still a very broad question, what aspects are you particularly wondering about?  I mean honestly, the Soviet economy was pretty good for a long time despite the shitty Stalinist system, really ticking along.  I mean I think the obvious changes one needs to make are 1. Not letting Stalin a literal paranoid schizophrenic take power, 2. Democratize early, 3. Things are owned by the people who work there, not by the state because that did not go well, 4. Not so much with the gulags and show trials. 5. Not so much with the instituting a dictatorship, 6. No purges.  7. Direct democracy rather than single party oligarchy, 8. Listening to rather than crushing dissent 9. Not murdering everyone with a knowledge of management, 10. Not turning all the media into a pro-us propaganda mill

Like Mao, good intentions or not didn’t understand how to manage agriculture which is why the famines occurred.  You need to keep the people who know how to do that around to keep shit running and also y’ know killing people is bad.

Pretty much: Not being a dictatorship

Also America’s economy is falling apart due to free market policies, ditto Canada, middle class disappearing, whole sections of the country in disrepair.  Germany and Australia both have strong labor unions, which prevent their capitalists from going “full rabid self destructive baboon” as they have in the states, but it’s still a system that ultimately destroys itself because it focuses on short term profitability rather than long term growth, and puts the well being of companies in the hands of investors (who are actually the least interested in the long term well being of the company, as they all want to quickly raise the stock price and sell, which leads to shit like asset stripping) rather than in the employees who are those mostly intertwined with the long term survival of the company

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