do you think other communist/anti-capitalist tendencies could be claimed as anti-civilization without being primitivist? because civilization implies exploitation of both people and ecosystems? and a liberated society could be technologically advanced without being a civilization?

fullweedcommunismnow:

thepeacockangel:

No.

 I don’t think it implies that at all and this all sounds like goddamned nonsense to me.

Also I don’t think you can exploit an ecosystem.  It’s not a person.  You can behave destructively towards it, and ultimately that harms people, but it’s the harm to people that’s important to me, not some goddamn ferngully bullshit.

I’m sorry, I’m sick and irritable.

Seriously though, why would it imply that?  How could it possibly imply that?  Any society is a civilization, the terms are interchangeable.

also I think there is no value in separating people from “the nature™” cause we’re part of an ecosystem and for example, this sharp separation of humans and civilisation vs innocent nature that you’ll often find in primitivism doesn’t account for that, at all.

Yes good, the rest of the ecosystem is what I mean… though also fuck nature.  There are too many goddamn moths.  I’ve killed like 20 today and they’re still coming to bother me.