do you think other communist/anti-capitalist tendencies could be claimed as anti-civilization without being primitivist? because civilization implies exploitation of both people and ecosystems? and a liberated society could be technologically advanced without being a civilization?

droneyroundskull:

thepeacockangel:

No.

 I don’t think it implies that at all and this all sounds like goddamned nonsense to me.

Also I don’t think you can exploit an ecosystem.  It’s not a person.  You can behave destructively towards it, and ultimately that harms people, but it’s the harm to people that’s important to me, not some goddamn ferngully bullshit.

I’m sorry, I’m sick and irritable.

Seriously though, why would it imply that?  How could it possibly imply that?  Any society is a civilization, the terms are interchangeable.

the environment is a lot bigger/more important than u sorry. The survival of the earth > the survival of a species that got wayyy  to in over it’s head imo. learn to respect the environment around you before you start talking about liberation, thanks

I don’t give a shit about the earth beyond humanity’s surviving and thriving.  Why should I give a rat’s ass about a random hunk of rock in space more than any other hunk of rock in space beyond what it can do for people?

Concern for “nature” before people is for the bourgeoisie, who sentimentalize it.